Sunday, February 03, 2013

M. Zalla (aka Piero Umiliani) - Problemi D'Oggi (Liuoto Records - LRS 0056) (1973 - 192kbps)

M. Zalla (aka Piero Umiliani) - Problemi D'Oggi (Liuto - LRS 0056) (1973 - 192kbps)

12 comments:

øשlqæda said...

thanks for the shout, i dutifully linked ya back. love umiliani of course. this pearl was upped by the doods at the growing bin, which is another amazing trove of obscura if ya don't know:
http://thegrowingbin.blogspot.com/2009/09/piero-umiliani-ed-i-problemi-doggi.html

Zer0_II said...

@øשlqæda: Thank you for linking back to me and for the background info on this one. I usually try to save a shortcut to the website that I downloaded an album from, but I have a lot of library rips I obtained before that practice became commonplace for me. I appreciate the fact that you politely informed me. I've noticed a disturbing trend recently on several music blogs, especially those that post library music rips. There are a number of people demanding credits for rips that were re-posted on other blogs, and doing so in a very rude and disrespectful way.

Just the other day I stumbled across a post where someone was demanding that another blogger remove a post from his blog because he didn't credit the original ripper. Needless to say the blogger in question had no idea who the original ripper was. It shocked me that the blogger actually removed the post, removing the only copy posted on any blog of an extremely rare Sven Libaek library record in the process. The person who ripped the album was extremely rude to the blog owner and visitors, and was so aggresive in his actions and words that you almost would have thought he had obtained the rights to distribute or something. It was obvious he cared more about soothing his own ego than sharing an amazing album.

I link to other blogs or mention the original ripper as a form of courtesy, because it seems like the proper thing to do, not because I feel as if I have to. Often times an album gets passed through several different channels before landing on the website I downloaded it from, and I'm sure this is the case for many other people, making it impossible to determine the original source. If someone downloaded an album I originally posted here, and then re-uploaded it for their own blog, it wouldn't bother me one bit, even if they didn't mention me in the slightest. Anyone who fails to show me respect in the comments section of this blog will be sent packing, original ripper or not. Some of these people need to realize that spreading music to those who haven't been fortunate enough to discover it yet is the primary reason most of us run blogs. It is the music that truly matters, not their inflated sense of self importance regarding their "heroic ripping deeds".

Marsellus Wallace said...

Wow!!! This is a great blog. I have Piero's "Il Corpo" on Sound Workshop...and it is one of my favorites. But I have never had the chance to preview this one. Thanks!

Marsellus Wallace

øשlqæda said...

didn't mean to imply that the growing bin should be given credit or anything of the sort. about a year or so ago i was looking for this one & found it at the bin, that's all. it aint 'their' rip anyhu, it belongs to everyone. fuck tha police. just seen you mention the durango blawgs (also a major point of contention for original rippa gripes :) & thought you might appreciate the growing bin, who seldom seem to come up in the ole search engine. peace be unto you

Zer0_II said...

@øשlqæda: It's all good. I prefer to give credit when I know who the original ripper is, so I don't mind giving credit to the Growing Bin one bit. The Bin is a great blog and deserves the attention like you said. I agree with you that the music belongs to everyone. My rant wasn't directed at you, but for those misguided souls that think the original ripper has the rights to distribute music. I try to give credit when it is due, and it is nice to receive credit in return, but I would never go so far as to demand it, and it shocks me that some people have the nerve to do so.

As far as Paul Durango's blogs go, I can't believe anyone could possibly have any gripes about it. I could care less if every single album posted on his blog was ripped by someone else. That place is a treasure trove of rare library music, and it would be a monumental loss if his blog ever disappeared. Some people just don't seem to be able to look at the big picture, and would rather focus on such petty matters. I'm glad that you are not one of those people. Thank you once again for stopping by here, providing the info about the bin, and linking back to me. I hope to see you hear in the future. Take care.

P.S. Fuck tha police indeed!

øשlqæda said...

sven - nickel

Zer0_II said...

@øשlqæda: "sven - nickel" Are you Psychic, or did you happen to stumble across a comment I made on another blog? I'm assuming it's the latter. Either way, thank you so much. You are too fucking awesome. I was searching for this a couple of days ago. I stumbled across a blog (can't remember the name of it now) that had posted "Nickel", but the download link had been removed. The "original ripper" was angry because the blog admin didn't give him credit for the rip in his post, and so he demanded that the blog admin remove the link. This was the incident I referred to in my previous comment that shocked me so much. I couldn't believe someone could be so self-centered that they would prevent thousands of people from being able to listen to an album simply because the blog admin didn't give him credit for the rip. I believe it was the only blog that "Nickel" could be found on also. I plan to post the very albums he demanded to be removed, and no, I don't plan to give him credit. I will give you credit for providing the download link though, and anyone else you would like me to give credit to. Thank you very much for your generosity, and for not being a total douchebag. Take care.

Zer0_II said...

@Marsellus Wallace: It's great to see you here. You run a killer blog yourself. I actually just discovered it a few days ago, but I plan to go through your entire archive when I have the time. You're in for a real treat when you listen to "Problemi D'Oggi". It's some of Umiliani's best work in my opinion. I plan to put several more of his albums up in the near future. Is there anything in particular that you lack and would like to have? Thank you once again for stopping by and taking the time to comment. I hope to see you around in the future. Take care.

øשlqæda said...

i spose everyone is slightly psychic, but no, i didn't see yer komment anywhere but here friend. i distinctly recall some drama poppin off at another spot when i too was seeking to digitally dig every libaek joint i could harvest & the only one i had to actively seek thru outside/insider channels was that one up thar, so i simply deduced that nothing had changed about its 'availability' thru the process of elimination. and ironically enuff, i can't remember the name of that aforementioned blawg either :)

Pornotrond said...

Thanks to you and Owl :)

tripmaster said...

wow. hey fellas! all of my favorite bloggers here in one comment thread. just wanted to express my gratitude for reposting the libaeks. i remember that whole debacle, and was pretty bummed myself at missing out on those rips. that was at least 2 or 3 years ago, so this is truly appreciated!

and as for the original ripper thing, i can understand both sides of the issue...it is very much a pride issue, and i can't knock that. the problem occurs when something is shared privately, and the receiving party doesn't honor the sharer's request to keep it private. that does indeed suck...

but at the same time, i've seen bloggers like durango get accused of stealing rips from franklynot back in it's heyday, and i'd find myself constantly having to vouch for the guy, trying to explain to them that durango finds most of his content via p2p, mainly soulseek, and that it's not necessarily fair for them to be assuming things while hurling accusations. they were convinced tho, so i was preaching to the choir...

as much as i understand how nice it is to receive credit, i always wondered if one day we would see a dark future where money hungry copyright trolls actively seek out "original rippers" so as to penalize them for their infringements with a fat lawsuit or settlement....with the way things are going with the courts ruling against individual downloaders, this dark future is not completely implausible. if this ever becomes a reality, i'm sure these original rippers will change their demands for credit into demands for anonymity so as not to incriminate themselves.

Zer0_II said...

@Tripmaster: You're more than welcome for the Libaeks, which you can expect to see more of in the future. Thank you for taking the time to share your opinion also. As for the original ripper issue, I can understand both sides also, but I have no sympathy for someone who appears on someone else's blog demanding that they remove an entire post simply because that person didn't give the original ripper ready. I think some people fail to understand how vast the file sharing world really is. It consists of blogs, forums, personal websites and servers, file sharing hosts, p2p programs, IRC, FTP, Usenet, topsites and dozens of other systems for spreading files. It would be entirely possible for a file to have went through a handful of these systems before ending up being found by a blogger who thinks it is a good idea to share it on his blog. Obviously the blogger would have no earthly idea where the file originated from first, unless of course there was some type of shortcut or text file claiming credit for it.

As I said before though, the only person who has the right to demand that a blogger remove a file is either the artist or the label. I understand it takes time to rip an album, but it pales in comparison to the amount of time and energy the artists and labels put into creating and releasing the album to begin with. It really is a petty source of pride if you ask me. These people need to realize that the majority of us do this to introduce the music we love to people unfamiliar with it, rather than for petty ego-masturbation purposes. That is why Paul Durango does it, along with myself and countless others.

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